"My Karma ran over your Dogma"

Tuesday, December 27, 2005

How about a puzzle?

I like brain-teasers. I found this while surfing.
My wife and I went to a dinner party with four other couples. At the beginning of the party, some people shook hands. (Obviously, no one shook his or her own hand or spouse's hand, and no one shook hands with the same person twice.) During the party I surveyed all the other people as to how many hands each one shook. I got different answers from everyone. What did my wife say?

Can you figure it out? It does have only one possible answer.
I will post the answer in a couple days.

All God's laws are enforced.

That is the end. The discussion is over with one simple phrase. I have no arguments left. How can I possibly continue?

After the relatively sane give-and-take, over several days, with plenty of scriptural research, my good righteous conservative Christian blogger ends the debate with:
All God's laws are enforced.

I guess I knew it would just be a matter of time. When loss is iminent, cover the room with pea-green puke to disrupt the exorcism.

What a fucking cop-out.

RV says Capital Punishment is OK by God.

Our "debate"

Monday, December 26, 2005

Fun with Dick and Jane

I just got back from seeing Fun with Dick and Jane. Mostly, it was typical Jim Carrey fare. Except it did get a little deeper than that.

I don't want to put out any spoilers but . . . it poked some great fun at our fearless pResident Dubya as well as a little light revenge on the bad behavior of some major corporate executives and their companies. cough*ENRON*cough. It is worth seeing just for the last line of the movie and the "Special Thanks To..." credits.

If you see it and don't agree . . . well . . . screw you. I liked the movie and its sideways slams at corporate greed.

If you don't want to see the movie but DO want to know the spoilers . . . maybe I'll tell 'em if ya ask me nice.


Saturday, December 24, 2005

'Tis the season

Happy Merry Christmahanukwanzikah!

Friday, December 23, 2005

Bible Thumping . . . the Good Parts Anyway

A right-wing blogger had the following interesting post. It made me think about the possible hypocrisy of the Bible itself.

I recently received an ignorant comment from another libertard atheist who says I should be against capital punishment because he found a verse in the Bible he doesn't believe in that says Jesus helped a man in prison. Lol, as stupid as that justification is, not to mention atheists quoting the Bible, I have to point out how and why I favor the death penalty, according to what I believe, which is The Truth.

- Genesis 9:5-6: "And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man. Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man."

- Leviticus 24:17-22: "And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death. And he that killeth a beast shall make it good; beast for beast. And if a man cause a blemish in his neighbour; as he hath done, so shall it be done to him; Breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a blemish in a man, so shall it be done to him again. And he that killeth a beast, he shall restore it: and he that killeth a man, he shall be put to death. Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the LORD your God."

- John 19:11: "Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above..."

- Romans 13: Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore he who resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of him who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain; he is the servant of God to execute his wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be subject, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience.

- Numbers 35:30-31: "Whosoever killeth any person, the murderer shall be put to death by the mouth of witnesses: but one witness shall not testify against any person to cause him to die. Moreover ye shall take no satisfaction for the life of a murderer, which is guilty of death: but he shall be surely put to death."

Any Questions, Libertard Atheists?

Being what this righteous Christian would identify as a "Libertard Atheist" I decided to take him up on his offer and post a question.

How do you decide which verses are right? How do you decide which verses to follow? Because the Bible also says:

Romans 12:
[17] Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.
[18] If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
[19] Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Exodus 20:
[13] Thou shalt not kill.

I forgot these, so I went back to remind him of them as well:

Matthew 5:
[38] Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
[39] But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

John 1:
[17] For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

I eagerly await his response.

I have often heard the saying that the Bible is just a group of stories written by men. Men make mistakes. Maybe not all the stories that should be in the Book are , and maybe some of the stories that are in the Book . . . shouldn't be. But that is for another post.

Thursday, December 08, 2005

I read a post at The 5th Estate Blog and the follow up comments. I liked it so much I thought it needed repeating. Here is the link to the full post and it's comments. I have made minor adjustments for readability and understandability out of context. Read away.

Let’s have a look at the 1st Amendment shall we?

“Congress shall make no law respecting [meaning ‘in respect to’] an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances”.

It’s pretty clear to me at least that the 1st Amendment:
a) disallows the establishment of an official and mandated religion and
b) allows everyone to practice any religion in public and without legal constraint.
So the celebration of Christmas is utterly consistent with the 1st Amendment.

One argument by the “right” is “not allowing people to publicly celebrate a religious holiday DOES violate rights granted to them in the 1st Amendment.” That would be correct, but ONLY if the public celebration of a religious holiday were to be specifically banned BY LAW. No such law exists, no such law has been proposed and such a law would indeed be unconstitutional. The ONLY constraint on the celebration of Christmas (or Christianity in general) in public is with regard to its sanctioning and promotion by government to the exclusion of other religions. Government buildings and organizations are obliged, consistent with the 1st Amendment to recognize other religious holidays coincident to Christian holidays (or indeed vice versa,), OR NOT AT ALL, again consistent with disallowing the establishment of ANY official, state mandated religion.

Is anyone being arrested for celebrating Christmas? No, they aren’t. The decorations are going up all across America, Christmas presents are being bought and Christmas trees are being decorated, so where is the evidence of Christmas being “disallowed” in anyway?

Christmas is indeed a national holiday and because it is the only truly national religious holiday that makes Christmas appear to be “official”, it appears to be inconsistent with the notion of the ”separation of Church and State” and suggests the government is ergo Christian and Christianity therefore the “official” religion.

However, whilst Christmas is officially recognized, its observation is not mandatory but optional and therefore it IS in accordance with the separation of Church and State, consistent with the 1st amendment and constitutionally permissible. Ergo Christianity is NOT an official religion and therefore the United States is NOT officially a Christian nation—it just has a lot of Christians in it. Those who would seek to make the US officially Christian would actually be “going against” the constitution of the United States, which would seem to be a bit un-American, don’t you think?

Another claim is,”This country was founded by conservative Christians.”
They seem to be mixing up the Puritan Pilgrims with the Founding Fathers here. The Pilgrims were indeed conservative Christians who left England after the resurgence of Catholicism under Charles II. The Pilgrims founded a colony, not a country. America didn’t spring up full blown the moment they landed at Plymouth Rock. And here’s some news for you…the pilgrims were so conservative that THEY DIDN’T CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS! To them the notion of taking a holiday and making merry in the name of Jesus was tantamount to blasphemy. Nor did they espouse religious freedom—they simply dismissed all but their own form.

The United States of America was founded by the thirteen colonies after a war against Great Britain over—no, not religious freedom, but over taxation and representation. The authors of the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights were all very learned men and most of them were Deists which meant they believed in a God but did not subscribe to any specific form of organized Christian worship.

And along with the specific instructions about the prevention of an established official religion contained in the 1st Amendment it is made clear in Article 11 of the "Treaty of peace and friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli, of Barbary," (generally known as the Treaty of Tripoli):

"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

This treaty was endorsed by the President John Adams who was also of course a “Founding Father”, it was approved by the Senate on June 7, 1797, ratifed and signed into law on June 10th 1797 without contention, and it was published in The Philadelphia Gazette on 17 June 1797.

Any questions?

He's baaaaaaaaaaaack, and he's bah-humbugging

I did pop in a couple times to see if any body cared. It's nice to be missed. Thanks for checking in peeps.

Now to my post.

BAH Humbug. I guess I hate what Christmas has become; a cross between ultra-commercialism and a weapon used by right-wing fundies. A weapon to divide the coutry even more with inane ass-plucked deuche-baggery like "The War on Christianity".

I think what the fundies have forgotten is that this season is about more than THEM. According to one of those Christian songs or hymns or whatever, it's the season of "peace on earth" and "goodwill towards men". Let me say that again . . .
I think that means being nice to each other, respecting each other, you know, crap like that. There are plenty of holidays this season OTHER THAN CHRISTMAS, you pompous, overbearing, ass-ratchets.

Everyone is so worried about exactly how much to spend on Whats-her-name and how much did Whos-its spend on us last year, they forget the peace and goodwill parts. Or do you need another picture frame to cram on your mantle? Or a new DVD player to go with the TV in the bathroom?
If it were up to me, you'd get a "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons Greetings" card and be done with it. And yeah, I'd buy a box of 20 cards and everyone would get the same one. Feel free to not get me anything. My wife loves Christmas, so she can do it. Happy Holidays. Leave me out of it. If it weren't for the fact that I have a son and he is now old enough to know about Santa and not old enough to "know" about Santa, I would close the book on the season.

I've already done what I do like doing during this season. I got a couple of gifts for my son and I donated to those less fortunate. I couldn't give much, but there are people worse off than me.

So Happy Holidays. See? I just made nice to everyone I know and like and I don't have to worry about offending anyone but self-righteous, bible-thumping, right-wing fundy hypocrits.

I feel better already.